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I made my coon ass mind up
I'm going to try a hydraulic clutch in my 64 with the 3 speed and the 223 6 cylinder. Any suggestions?
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No suggestion, just wondering why? I've always thought the hydraulic was a step in the wrong direction. Nothing gets improved and you may introduce more chances for failure. Just my opinion.
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Jim
I read your other post that you said you had a stroke
And your left leg didn't work very well....
You were considering an automatic for your 223
I have several trucks with hydraulic clutches
To me, there isn't a big difference in the amount of
Power it takes to push the clutch pedal.....
Before you make the swap, I would suggest you
Find a truck (57-60 ford have hydraulic clutch)
And see if it is suitable for you
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I have read on the Internet about guys converting
C4 transmissions to bolt up to 223 engines
Probably costly..... But it has been done
I read your other post that you said you had a stroke
And your left leg didn't work very well....
You were considering an automatic for your 223
I have several trucks with hydraulic clutches
To me, there isn't a big difference in the amount of
Power it takes to push the clutch pedal.....
Before you make the swap, I would suggest you
Find a truck (57-60 ford have hydraulic clutch)
And see if it is suitable for you
"...............
I have read on the Internet about guys converting
C4 transmissions to bolt up to 223 engines
Probably costly..... But it has been done
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
I did not put the two posts together before. I can see that you might have some trouble finding an auto that would bolt to a 223 and you are looking for an easier pedal. I wonder if you could add a booster to a hydraulic clutch?
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
there are auto trans available for the 223 and y blocks
more likely to find one in a ford car of that vintage then a truck maybe
personally i would go with something like this
http://www.ford-y-block.com/c4adapt.htm
more likely to find one in a ford car of that vintage then a truck maybe
personally i would go with something like this
http://www.ford-y-block.com/c4adapt.htm
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
I googled 223 trans adapters and found the link from Ice above and one other. Both are pretty expensive. Mummerts (ford-y-block) was around $800 and the other was around $900. I think an auto for a 223 would be pretty rare. Is it time for a complete driveline upgrade? This may be a faster/easier/less expensive way to go.
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Jim has built up his 223 with intake & headers
Sure hope he keeps that engine
Sure hope he keeps that engine
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
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''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
Not sure how impaired the stroke left you, but the hydraulic clutch like the manual clutch can be modified with a lighter spring. the hydraulic takes less foot pressure to activate.
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
Did some internet searching and found out some info
There was a bell housing made that fit a 223 AND a C4 trans....
Pretty rare I'm sure
Ford number on it was c4ap7976c
If a guy could find one... Sure could help motormount out
There was a bell housing made that fit a 223 AND a C4 trans....
Pretty rare I'm sure
Ford number on it was c4ap7976c
If a guy could find one... Sure could help motormount out
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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That answers the question I asked him. Does the 223 have a 6 bolt bell? Wondering if a small block zf would bolt in. Would need to electronic speedo.slick4x4 wrote:Did some internet searching and found out some info
There was a bell housing made that fit a 223 AND a C4 trans....
Pretty rare I'm sure
Ford number on it was c4ap7976c
If a guy could find one... Sure could help motormount out
Chris
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If you can find a hydraulic clutch conversion for a T-5 then it might be worth considering Mummert's kit for that. It involves modifying the existing bellhousing rather than purchasing a new one so it might work out to be cheaper in the end:
http://www.ford-y-block.com/t5in-trucks.htm
http://www.ford-y-block.com/t5in-trucks.htm
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I remember the 57 ford i once owned had a breakover spring under the dash to help counteract the clutch springs. Don't know if something like that would help in this case or not. Might take a bit of work to adapt to your truck.
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
I was told that the ford aod trans which has its own bell housing will bolt right up to the ford six's
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bossford65 wrote:I was told that the ford aod trans which has its own bell housing will bolt right up to the ford six's
To a 300 six maybe, but to bolt one up to a 223 you'd definitely need a pricey adapter.
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
I don't know if you solved the problem yet. I was cruising Mummert's site (www.y-block.com) and noticed he has a trans adapter for a 223 to a C4.
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I don't think he is into responding. I told him there was a 62 6 cylinder auto south of me but didn't hear back. I'll be down that way again toward the end of the year if anyone else wants me to look at it.bruceandersson wrote:I don't know if you solved the problem yet. I was cruising Mummert's site (http://www.y-block.com) and noticed he has a trans adapter for a 223 to a C4.
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Re: I made my coon ass mind up
I think bruceanderson had a great suggestion when he wondered if a brake booster could be used with a hydraulic clutch. Packaging concerns aside, it could make for a very light clutch. I can't think of any reason why it's not doable.
Also, a T85 overdrive trans does not need the clutch to shift, at least around town. That would at least cut down on the number of pushes on the pedal.
Also, a T85 overdrive trans does not need the clutch to shift, at least around town. That would at least cut down on the number of pushes on the pedal.
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