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bird55 wrote:Yes, I am familiar with the forged truck crank, but they don't pop up often. I would consider offset grinding it to stroke it. haha, I love spending other peoples money! Anyway should make a good engine for ya.
BTW just where is SW Missouri. Just curious since I am in Tulsa.
im about 35 miles from springfeild MO, ya im not sure if ill stroke it or not
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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A few Mods that were done a while back or a long time ago
-76 automatic trans wider rear drum brakes
-power steering off a 64 six cylinder-guy claimed it was factory special but people have said otherwise...kind of funny th drivers inner fender had a outline for me to knockout the hole for the "hose coupler hold down thing" :lol: I mounted to the frame ,the control valve seals went bad not long before we tagged it again this January
-Duraspark II distributor on the 390
'65 and up regulator-done when the 390 was out put in
73-76ish? Turn signal unit with built in 4 way switch
oil and alt gauges

Future Mods
-4 wheel power disk brakes
-Front sway bar- maybe rear


little things I hope to do
-63-64 hood emblem style door courtesy light-on the bottom of the door light up the ground like the newer mustangs have
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Matches my brake handle perfectly, when I get this installed down the road no one can just walk up and pull anything off the engine.. Image
Off a '60 edsel 4 door, power steering power brakes, should be perfect length cable to reach my latch.

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Power steering, power brakes, y bloc, and an automatic trans

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Part of my Power steering, but I need to get new seals in the control valve

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Image old core support is GONE I'll post the 62 f600 core support
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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What makings on the fire wall would have been the factory markings? Want to know so if it has then Ill know be careful when degreasing it Image
These pieces of the original mat we found when removing all the carpet before we pulled the cab off

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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Swapping back to a Y, awesome.

Factory high ratio rockers are 1.54:1 not 1.7. What do you mean "but people made the whole deal a mystery" about roller rockers? I might be able to help you with that since I have experience there, specific to Y-Blocks.

I see you have a story about the crank, so maybe this comment is misguided but for a mild build, a cast crank will be better because it is lighter. Even for serious performance, cast cranks work out well in Y's. They've been used in many 400 - 500+ hp builds reliably. That's not to say that people who have used them would not go to a forged crank for the extra insurance, if it was available, but cast cranks have not really been a weak link, yet and are bullet proof in a typical street engine. So unless you have some specific reason to go with forged, I encourage you to go with cast, if one is readily available to you.
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Just curious, why do you call it a 292 Boss?

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LM14 wrote:Just curious, why do you call it a 292 Boss?

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Because i intend to use all the good parts i can afford, big valve heads, and a hv oil pump, duraspark II and other things to make it better for daily driving...me and my dad just started calling it that :)
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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charliemccraney wrote:Swapping back to a Y, awesome.

Factory high ratio rockers are 1.54:1 not 1.7. What do you mean "but people made the whole deal a mystery" about roller rockers? I might be able to help you with that since I have experience there, specific to Y-Blocks.

I see you have a story about the crank, so maybe this comment is misguided but for a mild build, a cast crank will be better because it is lighter. Even for serious performance, cast cranks work out well in Y's. They've been used in many 400 - 500+ hp builds reliably. That's not to say that people who have used them would not go to a forged crank for the extra insurance, if it was available, but cast cranks have not really been a weak link, yet and are bullet proof in a typical street engine. So unless you have some specific reason to go with forged, I encourage you to go with cast, if one is readily available to you.
I got confused on the ratio...dads trying to brush up on his research fir his murcury murader 410 fe and I get confused at time :x
Well me and dad have talked about it and we may run the cast one...but money is tight and we really need to reassemble the 2nd one we pulled apart and sell it as a running motor...no much meat left in the block..worn .40 over... however im thinking longterm that i may pull it out after 200k miles and put it on a stand...or dare i say it..sell it.. and run something newer in 10 years or so..idk please by all means share your knowlage though, right now where still working on the top end package, as for the rollers, theyd say they did it but to me were vague about specifics and there were no true 'bolt on kits' , said that they had to have rhe machine shop dial everything in on the rockers.., are you running rollers?
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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I wish i could find the few photos of it post any visual restoration around 07-09..cant find it..
'62 f600 core support ,Here i sprayed the cancer with rust nutralizer, and used xo rust rattle can...big mistake it takes like a week or more to cure...has a few wrinckles now...
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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But the block that came out of a 64 1/2 ton, ended up haveing the steel crank...and that means it had the c1t heavy duty truck rods..very nice for poeple wanting to use a 312 crank in a 292 block...not so nice if you want a daily runner and not a truck motor and not a hd truck motor. turns out it was standard bore..no ridges..LOW wear..so i bet someone took it out of a low milage 64 f600..the distributor says c4t. but he intended to go with a 4.6 , new suspension, shave things...and half a $$ coverd the motor and when we got it home...it was nearly stuck...now it has a few pits...ya we could hone it but we think our best move longevity wise is to go .40 over . Any advice is welcome :D
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Anyone have any advice on doing a nv4500 truck 5 speed to a 292 swap? Seems like other than a clark 5sp od...thats my best bet on a truck od manual tranny..
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Im re arranging the thread bare with me
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Floor pans are not completly done obviously. :lol: I wanted to drive it to school, and dads vacation was almost up...im thinking about getting a whole floor pan kit when im ready to paint in a few years..but were doing the best we can with what we have in a timly manor...
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Alot of mistakes were made when dad cut up that floor pan as you can see...the spots he though were really bad...wasnt bad at all..and what he thought would be good...was bad.. :oops:
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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This is the 2nd engine..someone put on a high ratio rocker
Assm. And one regular, mismatchced the pushrods... :bs: the wimpy ones are bent...its a .40 over block
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1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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I plan on reassembling this one as a running engine and sell it..anyone need a y block? Although it has the cast crank if I decided to use it
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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aj64f100390-292 wrote:Because i intend to use all the good parts i can afford, big valve heads, and a hv oil pump, duraspark II and other things to make it better for daily driving...me and my dad just started calling it that :)
There is no HV pump for a Y-Block and for a Y in good condition a HV pump is not needed. In fact, if you need a high volume pump, then you have a problem that needs to be fixed. You have 2 choices, both standard volume.
One is the spur gear pump. This is available new from Melling and others. This one is fine for street use but it is not ideal for high rpm performance use. An easy way to identify this one is the pump body is iron.
The other is a gerotor pump. These are only available used but rebuild kits are available from Melling. This is fine for street use and the best option for high rpm performance use. An easy way to identify this one is the pump body is aluminum.

If you can afford it, convert a Y distributor to the duraspark trigger and used a box, coil, and wires from Performance Distributors. I've had their system for about 8 years now, driven all year round, in all weather and traffic conditions. Not one problem with it. The engine starts so easily, even in the coldest weather in my area - it gets into the 20s and sometimes teens and I don't even use the choke to start it. Of course, ignition alone will not do that, the overall tune is important, but the ignition is a key to achieving that.
Regarding converting a Y distributor, if you like diy, get a remanufactured distributor, which is usually a Motorcraft distributor. Since Duraspark distributors are Motorcraft, the Duraspark components drop right in. You just have to modify the distributor body for the wiring.
You can also go to a junk yard and get several advance mechanisms for tuning.
There are also companies that will modify the distributor for you and can curve it and that is not a bad option, either.
aj64f100390-292 wrote:I got confused on the ratio...dads trying to brush up on his research fir his murcury murader 410 fe and I get confused at time :x
Well me and dad have talked about it and we may run the cast one...but money is tight and we really need to reassemble the 2nd one we pulled apart and sell it as a running motor...no much meat left in the block..worn .40 over... however im thinking longterm that i may pull it out after 200k miles and put it on a stand...or dare i say it..sell it.. and run something newer in 10 years or so..idk please by all means share your knowlage though, right now where still working on the top end package, as for the rollers, theyd say they did it but to me were vague about specifics and there were no true 'bolt on kits' , said that they had to have rhe machine shop dial everything in on the rockers.., are you running rollers?
The typical 292 will go well over .040". The only way you know how much yours can go is to have the cylinder walls sonic checked. These are not modern small blocks. They have plenty of meat in them. A .040" over 292 is barely broken in ;)

They are right that there are no bolt on kits regarding roller rocker arms. But that is technically true of any engine because rocker geometry needs to be corrected and this will vary from one build to another depending on the other parts used and any milling that has been done. It requires a lot more work than to simply bolt them on with any engine.
Since money is tight roller rockers are not wise for this project. You'll have $800 - $1000 in rocker arm related parts by the time you've paid for the rockers, corrected geometry and ordered custom pushrods. There may also be valve cover interference that will need to be addressed. The benefits will not be proportional to that cost. This is best left to the guy who want the most possible out of his engine.
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charliemccraney wrote:
aj64f100390-292 wrote:Because i intend to use all the good parts i can afford, big valve heads, and a hv oil pump, duraspark II and other things to make it better for daily driving...me and my dad just started calling it that :)
There is no HV pump for a Y-Block and for a Y in good condition a HV pump is not needed. In fact, if you need a high volume pump, then you have a problem that needs to be fixed. You have 2 choices, both standard volume.
One is the spur gear pump. This is available new from Melling and others. This one is fine for street use but it is not ideal for high rpm performance use. An easy way to identify this one is the pump body is iron.
The other is a gerotor pump. These are only available used but rebuild kits are available from Melling. This is fine for street use and the best option for high rpm performance use. An easy way to identify this one is the pump body is aluminum.

If you can afford it, convert a Y distributor to the duraspark trigger and used a box, coil, and wires from Performance Distributors. I've had their system for about 8 years now, driven all year round, in all weather and traffic conditions. Not one problem with it. The engine starts so easily, even in the coldest weather in my area - it gets into the 20s and sometimes teens and I don't even use the choke to start it. Of course, ignition alone will not do that, the overall tune is important, but the ignition is a key to achieving that.
Regarding converting a Y distributor, if you like diy, get a remanufactured distributor, which is usually a Motorcraft distributor. Since Duraspark distributors are Motorcraft, the Duraspark components drop right in. You just have to modify the distributor body for the wiring.
You can also go to a junk yard and get several advance mechanisms for tuning.
There are also companies that will modify the distributor for you and can curve it and that is not a bad option, either.
aj64f100390-292 wrote:I got confused on the ratio...dads trying to brush up on his research fir his murcury murader 410 fe and I get confused at time :x
Well me and dad have talked about it and we may run the cast one...but money is tight and we really need to reassemble the 2nd one we pulled apart and sell it as a running motor...no much meat left in the block..worn .40 over... however im thinking longterm that i may pull it out after 200k miles and put it on a stand...or dare i say it..sell it.. and run something newer in 10 years or so..idk please by all means share your knowlage though, right now where still working on the top end package, as for the rollers, theyd say they did it but to me were vague about specifics and there were no true 'bolt on kits' , said that they had to have rhe machine shop dial everything in on the rockers.., are you running rollers?
The typical 292 will go well over .040". The only way you know how much yours can go is to have the cylinder walls sonic checked. These are not modern small blocks. They have plenty of meat in them. A .040" over 292 is barely broken in ;)

They are right that there are no bolt on kits regarding roller rocker arms. But that is technically true of any engine because rocker geometry needs to be corrected and this will vary from one build to another depending on the other parts used and any milling that has been done. It requires a lot more work than to simply bolt them on with any engine.
Since money is tight roller rockers are not wise for this project. You'll have $800 - $1000 in rocker arm related parts by the time you've paid for the rockers, corrected geometry and ordered custom pushrods. There may also be valve cover interference that will need to be addressed. The benefits will not be proportional to that cost. This is best left to the guy who want the most possible out of his engine.


Well on the oil pump, we were looking at tim mc masters tthe y block guy site, on the oiling routes and mods and by going pressurized on rockers he said you should drill a hole to help keep from starving the front cam bearing, but that directs some away from the crank from how we saw it.... so it seems like a good idea more now..but were still researching.. but even if thats not a problem, dad swears by hv oil pumps, that dousnt mean any thing but if all i have to do us get 302 hv pump guts and make a taller plate it seems like a nice precaution...but i think i may have both types ones a ribed cover plate on the pump, ones the flat style, havent cleaned the grease off of either of them so ill have to check

And as for the block well ill have to look at more infirmation...I wore john mummurt claimed that a later than 57 block couldnt be bored much more than .80 over...but they have deeper main skirt bolts..that dousnt mean they're word is gold by any means though
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
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Re: My 64 f100 390 FT mount-soon to be boss 292 build progre

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Now on that duraspark distributor upgrade yes thats exactly what i saw on FTE and i have two motorcraft distributors
1964 f100 lwb 292 ECG Heads,4v, 4spd, '76 9" 3.25, orig. :292 3spdO/D, 3.92 spicer locker
19mpg hwy, .040/298ci, arnd 8.7:1, ECG heads, stainless valves, ceramic coated ramshorn manifolds, B code int., eddy 4bbl, Durasprk II/C5ZF dizzy, C2AE rods,high ratio rockers, NOS two groove h.balancer, unkwn cam-for now :twisted: soon:pwr asst steering
was FE/FT, mount:390, C6R heads, C4ae int, w/ 361/391 FT Bellhous.,timing cover, & w. pump.
-Back on the road since jan '17
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