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charliemccraney wrote:Are the cab mounting rubbers for a unibody the same as those for a regular cab? I have a set for 1961 - 64 Ford Pickup Truck but they do not look quite like the ones I removed. I was going to put one in tonight but I don't see how they will work without at least a little modification.
Here is a pic showing the mounts which I removed and the replacements

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It's the small step on the upper rubber that I'm wondering about. It doesn't fit into the hole in the frame. The lower rubber has a hole large enough to slide over that small step of the upper mount. The rubbers I removed do not have that step and the lower has a smaller diameter hole. Each of the rubbers is labeld "front top" and "front Bottom" so I know I have the ones that should be correct out of the set.

So am I misuderstanding something?
There are also some large od washers, about 3/16" thick and I don't know what they're for. Oh, maybe they're shims?
If you look up a few posts from this post to Tims Pics you will see the same puck used as in your picture. Your truck has rust and the hole needs to be reamed to clean it of all the crap rusted in place.

And yes the uni uses a different set of pucks that no one makes. the front mounts are generic but are dimensinally correct and can be used on all 66 and 81 units. The rear cab mount for a 66 is a simple 1/4" thick rectangle of rubber. This piece of rubber with a 1/2 hole sits on top of the frame between the torque box and rail. and a bolt from behind the tank makes the mount.

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Garbz wrote:First

How did you manage to get the completly wrong cab mounts and floor to fit? The F250 4x4 in 1966 uses the old type mount same as 61 to 64 model 81 trucks and also 61 to 63 model 66 trucks. It also use an entirely different frame verses the two wheel drive truck. Are you using a 67 up frame? which is about the only way to do it.

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They aren't completely wrong. The floor wasn't bad. It was warped a little which has made things a little difficult. The cab mount as it was could work but just did not fit right. And now I've come to find out that it's 1/4" deeper than stock.
As far as I know the frame is original. Solid front axle. Narrower frame rails.
The guys at Carolina Classic say that the unibody uses different mounts from the cab to the bed. The ones I ordered certainly would not fit without slight modification.
Lawrenceville, Ga
1961 F100 Unibody
318 Y-block (292 +.070 bore, +.170 stroke), FMS T5-Z w/Mustang 10.5" diaphragm clutch.
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charliemccraney wrote:
Garbz wrote:First

How did you manage to get the completly wrong cab mounts and floor to fit? The F250 4x4 in 1966 uses the old type mount same as 61 to 64 model 81 trucks and also 61 to 63 model 66 trucks. It also use an entirely different frame verses the two wheel drive truck. Are you using a 67 up frame? which is about the only way to do it.

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The above qoute has zero to do with a uni.....It is direct relation to the poster that installed later mounts 67 to 72....in what is posted to be a 66 F250 four wheel drive, which uses a totally different factory cab from the pictures in the album.

They aren't completely wrong. The floor wasn't bad. It was warped a little which has made things a little difficult. The cab mount as it was could work but just did not fit right. And now I've come to find out that it's 1/4" deeper than stock.
As far as I know the frame is original. Solid front axle. Narrower frame rails.
The guys at Carolina Classic say that the unibody uses different mounts from the cab to the bed. The ones I ordered certainly would not fit without slight modification.
There are NO other mounts out there for the 61 to 63 unis for front cab mounts. do they fit somewhat yes, are they 100 percent correct no. But it is all that is made so one must make them from scratch or make due.

As far as being 1/4 inch deep.. Crank on the puck bolt a little tighter. It will compress. or shave 1/4" off the upper puck.

I clearly stated the rear cab insualtors for a uni ARE a 1/4 inch thick piece of rectangular rubber with a 1/2 inch hole punched in it. It sandwitches in betewen the frame and torque box. No one sells them! But replacement inner apron straps work in a pinch. Just modify them.

The remainder of the mounts for the bed all the way back to the tail gate consists of OAK blocking in the crossmembers drilled 1/2" for the carriage bolts through the frame.

The front cab mounts sold for 61 to 64 trucks will fit the 61 to 63 uni floors as they all used the same sheet metal in the floor stamping outer door and cowl and the same inner step sill plates.

Even Ricks floor pans for 61 to 64 will repair the unis floor pan.

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Is it usually necessary to loosen the steering box and adjust it's position slightly in order for the column to mount properly in the cab after replacing the mounts? I have the body positioned where I think it should be and the column is pulled away from the dash slightly.
...Or maybe the bracket under the dash is adjustable. I haven't looked at that yet.
Lawrenceville, Ga
1961 F100 Unibody
318 Y-block (292 +.070 bore, +.170 stroke), FMS T5-Z w/Mustang 10.5" diaphragm clutch.
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Yes you need to adjust the column back to the correct 1/16th inch between steering wheel and shift hub.

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