DSO Question

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » May 21, 2010, 3:50 pm

Anyone have access to DSO info for the 61-64 trucks? Checking out the Vin info on my new 61 Uni and the DSO # is 0995. I was told that was not a valid DSO #, so went back and rechecked the plate and the number under the DSO heading is 0995. I understand the DSO is usually 6 numbers (i.e. 13-1234 with the first two digits being the ordering district office. I also found some information that said the last four numbers were for the number of "special orders" for that model year. Which makes a certain amount of sense. Since it's a Big Back Window truck, I'm wondering if it was the 995th truck that model year with the BBW option? Any thoughts, anyone?

Michelle · Post by **Michelle** » May 21, 2010, 4:08 pm

Numbers 90 through 99 are export numbers. I don't if that is any help, but I will throw it out just in case.

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » May 21, 2010, 5:28 pm

Gritsngumbo wrote:Anyone have access to DSO info for the 61-64 trucks? Checking out the Vin info on my new 61 Uni and the DSO # is 0995. I was told that was not a valid DSO #, so went back and rechecked the plate and the number under the DSO heading is 0995. I understand the DSO is usually 6 numbers (i.e. 13-1234 with the first two digits being the ordering district office. I also found some information that said the last four numbers were for the number of "special orders" for that model year. Which makes a certain amount of sense. Since it's a Big Back Window truck, I'm wondering if it was the 995th truck that model year with the BBW option? Any thoughts, anyone?

You are probably misreading the info. The codes are not always neat and lined up. List out all the data and we will see what we can decipher. There is no such thing as a 4 number DSO it is either two numbers or 6 numbers. If it has two numbers it means it was a regular stock vehicle and if it has 6 numbers it means it was a special order vehicle. On the special order DSO the first two numbers represent the district and the last 4 are actually the last 4 from the special order forms that they used which allowed them to keep them sorted for warantee work (you will only have a few each year with the same special order DSO and they are rarely the same model etc... so 4 digits from the order form were enough to keep it sorted). There are also some vehicles with no numbers which means it was built just to keep the assembly line running when there were no dealer or special orders in the system (pretty unusual). There is no possibility that the number represents the number of any options or anything like that. Hawkrod

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » May 21, 2010, 5:39 pm

My '65 has :11 0825
could you tell me what that means--I think I saw somewhere 'Boston'?
I know the truck was purchased new in Providence,R.I.--thanks,Steve.

bluebolt · Post by **bluebolt** » May 21, 2010, 5:56 pm

Hawkrod and others this is truly a 4 digit DSO of 0995 I have seen it myself. Never seen another one. Just prior to that is "3800" under the RPM column so Grits is not misreading it and there is no evidence of the missing two numbers. Anybody out there with a BBW uni have a similar DSO wether 6 or 4 digit?

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » May 21, 2010, 6:53 pm

FYI: There is a photo of the Warranty Plate in my album verifying that I really can read. I tried to upload to photo bucket but it wouldn't upload for some reason.
The number or the data behind it doesn't really make a difference, but I am just curious, especially since the comment "There is no such thing as a 4 number DSO it is either two numbers or 6 numbers."

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » May 21, 2010, 6:54 pm

bluebolt wrote:Hawkrod and others this is truly a 4 digit DSO of 0995 I have seen it myself. Never seen another one. Just prior to that is "3800" under the RPM column so Grits is not misreading it and there is no evidence of the missing two numbers. Anybody out there with a BBW uni have a similar DSO wether 6 or 4 digit?

I have no doubt that the truck has a four digit number under DSO, what I am saying is that very often the numbers are mis-spaced, These were handmade and I have seen some very odd stampings. List the entire contents of the tag and I will see if I can figure out what it is supposed to say rather than what it appears to say. There is a guy out there with a Mustang that has all of the numbers run together in one line with no spaces, I think the guy making tags that day was new! Hawkrod

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » May 21, 2010, 7:34 pm

Hawk this is from Grit's album
[albumimg]8122[/albumimg]
(click to enlarge)
now you got me curious

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » May 21, 2010, 7:48 pm

That is interesting...

BarnieTrk · Post by **BarnieTrk** » May 21, 2010, 9:19 pm

F7BIGJOB wrote:

My '65 has :11 0825
could you tell me what that means--I think I saw somewhere 'Boston'?
I know the truck was purchased new in Providence,R.I.--thanks,Steve.

Yep, you're correct, F7BJ.

DSO 11 = Boston, Massachusetts as the District Sales Office. It serviced: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Northeastern Connecticut.

The 0825 is indicative of some particular special order items. I can't help you with which or what it was for though.....

BarnieTrk

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » May 22, 2010, 4:32 am

Thanks BT,
I know it was ordered with 352, h.d. seat, h.d. front axle, lighter gvw [6800#] And I don't recall what else right now- I couldn't understand when I checked some of this when I got it, why didn't they order a custom cab

-Steve.

bluebolt · Post by **bluebolt** » May 22, 2010, 8:09 am

Hawkrod wrote:
bluebolt wrote:Hawkrod and others this is truly a 4 digit DSO of 0995 I have seen it myself. Never seen another one. Just prior to that is "3800" under the RPM column so Grits is not misreading it and there is no evidence of the missing two numbers. Anybody out there with a BBW uni have a similar DSO wether 6 or 4 digit?
I have no doubt that the truck has a four digit number under DSO, what I am saying is that very often the numbers are mis-spaced, These were handmade and I have seen some very odd stampings. List the entire contents of the tag and I will see if I can figure out what it is supposed to say rather than what it appears to say. There is a guy out there with a Mustang that has all of the numbers run together in one line with no spaces, I think the guy making tags that day was new! Hawkrod

That's what I thought when Grits first told me the DSO but after seeing it it may be the stamp guy just did not put the district on the tag. Everyne makes mistakes. Saw a 1970/71 Torino once, original owner, 429 N code car, original hoses and wires and everything. Only problem was the engine code VIN on the dash board was a "M"!

BarnieTrk · Post by **BarnieTrk** » May 22, 2010, 11:02 am

F7BIGJOB wrote:
Thanks BT,
I know it was ordered with 352, h.d. seat, h.d. front axle, lighter gvw [6800#] And I don't recall what else right now- I couldn't understand when I checked some of this when I got it, why didn't they order a custom cab -Steve.

F7BJ,
I'd guess that all or part of the 'special order' items were the H.D. seat and the H.D. front axle.
Did you add the chrome front bumper, if not that may have been another 'option box' checked when originally ordered....

If it wasn't ordered with the Custom Cab package, how is it that it's wearing an aluminum grille and headlight bezels?

You or someone else must have added them, ay? It looks GREAT!

BarnieTrk

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » May 22, 2010, 1:42 pm

BT:
I have seen a picture of this truck when it was about 2 or 3 years old with chrome front bumper and aluminum grill I have replaced that grill as it was damaged, got a steel one and painted it.
When I brought this truck home and did some digging, it had so much and lacked so little to be a cc why didn't they just order a cc?

I think I remember seeing somewhere you could order bright finish on a base model, not sure-- someone will correct me.

Thanks for the compliment-Steve.

BarnieTrk · Post by **BarnieTrk** » May 22, 2010, 2:33 pm

F7BIGJOB wrote:
BT:
I have seen a picture of this truck when it was about 2 or 3 years old with chrome front bumper and aluminum grill I have replaced that grill as it was damaged, got a steel one and painted it.
When I brought this truck home and did some digging, it had so much and lacked so little to be a cc why didn't they just order a cc?

I think I remember seeing somewhere you could order bright finish on a base model, not sure-- someone will correct me.
Thanks for the compliment-Steve.

Steve -- You sure did a nice job on that steel grille, I thought it was aluminum!

I suspect that back in the day, you could order just about anything available and if not the factory - the dealer would put it on your truck for ya!
Since you know much of the history of your truck, have you tried to locate someone who may have been involved in the ordering of it?
I'd say it's worth asking around and a few calls......

Gritsngumbo -- Sorry for the hijacking your thread!

BarnieTrk

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » May 22, 2010, 4:44 pm

GRITSNGUMBO:

Sorry for stealing your thread-Sent BT a pm

-Steve.

ezernut9mm · Post by **ezernut9mm** » November 8, 2010, 10:39 pm

just because i like to dig up old threads. my 61 has a four digit dso of 5483. my warranty plate is in very good condition and stamped very well. these numbers are right after the net hp numbers.
where are you guys finding the dso info? i would like to check it out.

jakdad · Post by **jakdad** » November 8, 2010, 11:41 pm

Don't know if this will help. I found the DSO paper for my '82 under the seat springs.

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » November 9, 2010, 9:28 am

jakdad wrote:Don't know if this will help. I found the DSO paper for my '82 under the seat springs.

That piece of paper is called a build sheet and unfortunately does really have anything to do with DSO paperwork which was kept at the DSO. The paperwork can have notes regarding special parts but not often so usually it is of no help. This 4 digit DSO issue is odd though as there are no Ford records that I can find that make any mention of it so I have to assume it was a line worker error. Hawkrod

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » November 9, 2010, 9:34 am

So, mine was a line worker error as well as Chris's?

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