Dropped the 292

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 19, 2011, 7:23 pm

Ok I have the 292 in place where the 262 used to be. I have it wired and I can't get it to fire. Checked the dist to make sure I wasn't off 180 but it's ok. Got spark and have been dumping gas or starter fluid but no fire. Seems to crank sort of slow but engine will turn pretty easy at the pulley. I'm at a loss. Any ideas?

Tom and Jak

William-in-St George · January 19, 2011, 9:49 pm

Spark at the coil should be blue and really snap. Starter should be fully charged and spin it over beathell. Is the rotor turning? Have you reviewed the wiring and ID'd number one? Are you on compression stroke? Are you using old gas? Are the plugs wet? You can warm the plugs and dry them in the oven (when the old lady isn't looking).

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 19, 2011, 9:54 pm

Thanks for the input. Plugs are dry. Maybe not enough fuel? Located #1 and distributor in correct spot. Doesn't even want to kick even with starting fluid. Not a real snap spark from coil.

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 19, 2011, 10:13 pm

Think I have a bad ground somewhere ?

T & J

6166 Junkyard Dog · Post by **6166 Junkyard Dog** » January 19, 2011, 10:49 pm

Try to run a direct hot wire to the + of the coil to see if fires up, if not double check to be sure when you are cranking the engine that spark is going through the points I have seen that some times the wire that goes through the solenoid off the key switch might have breaks in it over the years,, Also be sure the right wires are on the 2 little post correctly, then last resort be sure you did not get bad set of points/condensor are good,, maybe while cranking obsereve the rotor hows its turning and not skipping be sure turning good

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 19, 2011, 11:19 pm

My wife is starting to get jealous of the other girl in the shop. I'll check back tomorrow.

Thanks!

charliemccraney · Post by **charliemccraney** » January 20, 2011, 12:16 am

Got the right firing order? It's not the same as any of the later engines.

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 20, 2011, 9:33 am

Got the firing order right. First thing I checked.

Tom

Obsa · Post by **Obsa** » January 20, 2011, 9:40 am

Is this the emgine you had built and was on the engine stand? Are you sure the timing marls on the vrank and cam are set correctly?

charliemccraney · Post by **charliemccraney** » January 20, 2011, 9:42 am

You asked if you might have a bad ground. Possibly. The distributor grounds through the engine block. It wouldn't hurt to run a jumper wire from the distributor body to ground and see if the situation improves. There should be no gasket between the distributor and block. Sometimes people put one in there when they rebuild it. If there is a gasket, I suppose it could affect the grounding of the distributor and if there is one, I would remove it.

Got the right valve adjustment? It has solid lifters.

64 f100 · Post by **64 f100** » January 20, 2011, 9:46 am

Have you changed the timing chain on this engine? If so, it's possible that the timing marks were set wrong. Y-block have a curious setting for the timing marks that is totally different from most engines. Even some of the books have gotten thetiming marks set the wrong way. The timing is to be set with the marks at eveven or twelve links apart . This is roughly at the 3 O'clock position if looking at the front of the engine while standing in front of it. Also, If, the plugs are used and the engine has been flooded, sometimes you have to change the plugs and start with fresh plugs before trying to start. You don't mention if it has fired back thru the carb or even tried to start. Did the engine try to start at any time? A little background on the engine would be helpfull in diagnosing your problem.

Rich

charliemccraney · Post by **charliemccraney** » January 20, 2011, 9:55 am

64 f100 wrote:...The timing is to be set with the marks at eveven or twelve links apart ...

It is 12.

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 20, 2011, 8:44 pm

It's a used running engine. (was) Am I correct in assuming that if I have the wires right. Number 1 at the top of the stroke and the dist close I should be there? It cranks sort of slow and the starter gets hot pretty quick.

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » January 22, 2011, 6:27 pm

Got it fired. Had to clean up a ground and then there was the little issue of the dist being off a bit. Duhhhh !

Thanks guys!

Tom and Jakson

ezernut9mm · Post by **ezernut9mm** » January 22, 2011, 6:33 pm

congrats. now we need a vid of it running. lol