Power steering 64 4x4?

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » April 23, 2011, 2:28 pm

Any ideas for a power steering alternative?

Thanks,

Tom

napass2004 · Post by **napass2004** » April 23, 2011, 5:04 pm

ive been working on this same thing for a while now i used a 77 2wd box and a 65 column its a lot of work but should be worth it. check out the azratrod project in the project and builds section its basically the same idea

slick4x4 · Post by **slick4x4** » April 23, 2011, 6:19 pm

qwertyd10n · Post by **qwertyd10n** » April 23, 2011, 9:22 pm

TOMJAK11 wrote:Any ideas for a power steering alternative?

Thanks,

Tom

Hey Tom,

I'm not real familiar with the differences between the '64 and '66 4x4s... but here's what I did to my '66 F100 4x4 to add power steering:

http://fordtruk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=109586

I know there are those that don't "approve" of the idea of putting PS on these trucks... but all I can say is that I LOVE it. It makes driving my big ole 4x4 around in the city SOOOO much more enjoyable. I went from swearing and cursing every time I had to get the truck (which has 33x12.5 tires on it BTW) into or out of my garage via my very tight back alley... to one finger steering if I want. I actually put a new, smaller diameter steering wheel on the truck this winter to give me a little more room and because the original, huge steering wheel just isn't necessary anymore.

Cheers,
Dion

Rusted64 · Post by **Rusted64** » April 23, 2011, 9:48 pm

slick4x4 wrote:

Hey, where did you get that picture of my arm.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » April 24, 2011, 9:44 am

its not that i dont approve, its your truck but i do not care for PS and since my wife does not complain or want it i will never bother.

fact is one of the main reasons we own these old 4x4s is for what they dont have and the ease to repair them at home with common tools.

that said, there are always possibilities if you really want to do something and have fabrication skills and there is no better place than this forum to throw out ideas and get help if you get stuck on something.

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » April 24, 2011, 10:12 am

Rusted64 wrote:
slick4x4 wrote:
Hey, where did you get that picture of my arm.

Long as it wasn't your girlfriend's arm

HiBoy63 · Post by **HiBoy63** » April 24, 2011, 10:17 am

Rusted64 wrote:
slick4x4 wrote:
Hey, where did you get that picture of my arm.

Hey I thought they all came with power steering. Yes both my 4x4s have a power assist by Armstrong. Old joke but I just couldnt resist. Whos ever arm that is you better go have a couple protien shakes and lift some weights.

HiBoy63 · Post by **HiBoy63** » April 24, 2011, 10:20 am

Slick4x4 couldnt resist just had to put words to your pic. Wonder how long that sayings been around???

TOMJAK11 · Post by **TOMJAK11** » April 28, 2011, 8:15 pm

I'm pretty sure the 64 frame/front end is nothing like the 65 and newer. Seriously does anyone have any info on this? Is the modified 79 box the only way?

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » April 28, 2011, 8:38 pm

TOMJAK11 wrote:I'm pretty sure the 64 frame/front end is nothing like the 65 and newer. Seriously does anyone have any info on this? Is the modified 79 box the only way?

61-65 f100 4x4, 61-66 f250 4x4, 61-66 f350 2wd(there were no factory f350 4x4s) and 61-66 f500 all use the same steering gearbox with the 4 spoke wheel. there are some later f and b 500,600 and 700 that use a box similar to the factory slick 4x4 box that have ram style power steering. some frame mods would be necessary as the box is a bit larger and the bolt pattern is different.

this is a 79 f250 4x4 ps box on a 79 frame

i do know there is a toyota ps box that some folks have converted to ford.

there is no simple or bolt up way to add power steering to the early 60s 4x4.

Dion was able to do the power steering because the 66 f100 has the same basic front frame as the f100/150 4x4s up to 79.

HiBoy63 · Post by **HiBoy63** » April 28, 2011, 9:06 pm

Tomjak11 here you go 65 F100 4x4 front frame pix hope this helps

quietwyatt · Post by **quietwyatt** » April 30, 2011, 10:48 am

I had a sticker made to put on the back window of my 65 that says, Steering by Armstrong. I see people look at it with a puzzled look sometimes. Guess they don't get it. probably never drove a vehicle w/o power steering. In all honesty, my 4x4 steers real nice. Well lubed front end along with skinney tires. Works for me.

Roger Carter · Post by **Roger Carter** » April 30, 2011, 4:17 pm

Sure looks like the '78-'79 F-250 4x4 steering gear would be a good place to start, based on the above pictures.
A little frame boxing, some sleeves for the mounting bolts and some ingenuity.. .
The drag link and the steering arm on the knuckle might pose some challenges. Looks like changing / modifying the steering column could be the biggest issue.

Roger Carter

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » May 1, 2011, 3:23 pm

Roger Carter wrote:Sure looks like the '78-'79 F-250 4x4 steering gear would be a good place to start, based on the above pictures.
A little frame boxing, some sleeves for the mounting bolts and some ingenuity.. .
The drag link and the steering arm on the knuckle might pose some challenges. Looks like changing / modifying the steering column could be the biggest issue.

Roger Carter

I think you are correct and a just a bit off too! LOL I do think the F250/F350 4X4 box from a 77 1/2 to a 79 is a perfect swap (and it would work exactly the same on a 61-64 2WD too). The difference is I don't think the steering arm or drag link are a challenge at all and when I did it on a 61 2WD I just used the stock steering arm and made a drag link from two tie rod ends and a tie rod sleeve and it was as simple as pie. The column is going to be the hardest part but even that is no challenge as you can use a 66 F100 4X4 column and make a custom lower shaft between the column and box (and trust me, that was easy too.) or you can use a 67-75 4X4 column and move the mount or get an inner shaft from a 67-75 4X4 column and instal it in a 65/66 2WD column and make the lower shaft. You can also get a center shaft from a Boxing the frame was easy as I used a piece of a frame horn from the other side that I cut off in the junkyard and used grade 8 bolts to attach it on the two rails. I got fancy with the sleeves for inside the frame by welding tabs to each other and one for a screw from the outside to keep it in place. I made a steering box mount from plate steel that also bolted to the frame and two of the box bolts go through the frame (that is why the sleeves, to keep the frame from colapsing) and two to the plate mount. BTW, I do have a couple of 77 1/2-79 boxes with pitman arms for sale too! LOL Hawkrod

Roger Carter · Post by **Roger Carter** » May 1, 2011, 5:51 pm

After I posted my last thread I had a foggy vision. I hadn't considered the similarities between the Slicks and the Bumps/Dents. Back in the before times we used to use a mid 60's Lincoln or Thunderbird power steering box when converting the '67 and up F-250 4x4 to power steering. The install was almost identical to the install of the factory '77.5-'79 install, only with a lot more fabrication.

Sounds like Hawkrod has ironed out most of the percieved problems, using Ford parts.

Now, as soon as I get started I will almost be done!

Roger Carter

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