MadMaxetc's 1963 Build

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 14, 2011, 7:28 pm

I got some time in the shop and got the 4-link hung at ride height so I can start to fab the pan hard rod.

It is looking DAMN good if I do say so myself.

Post by **Greg D** » August 14, 2011, 8:23 pm

WOW Dan, that does look real "Damn" good!

Alan Mclennan · Post by **Alan Mclennan** » August 15, 2011, 2:13 am

Dan, those wheels look killer!, are you building it in your kitchen?, looks very tidy!

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 15, 2011, 6:49 pm

I finaly have the space to keep it clean, so I do...sort of.

kstones63 · Post by **kstones63** » August 18, 2011, 9:29 pm

Looking good.
Is it going to be ready for SlickStock???????

Kevin

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 19, 2011, 8:13 pm

I highly doubt it. It might be rolling by then. Going on 12 years on this labor of love.

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 20, 2011, 7:30 pm

I am kicking ass on this thing now!

Here is the current state of the frame.

Max · Post by **Max** » August 20, 2011, 9:13 pm

Looking real good Dan!

loosrp · Post by **loosrp** » August 21, 2011, 9:14 am

Nice work for sure! Looks great!

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 27, 2011, 2:05 pm

Did some work on the front end today.

jamesdfo · Post by **jamesdfo** » August 27, 2011, 3:37 pm

Dan: I had a look at some of the pics in your gallery, and at the risk of being told to "eff off", I noticed a couple things.....

Why wouldn't you use the poly bushed style rod ends (ie: bushed by male threaded, available from most street rod vendors) instead of welding the sleeve the poly bush goes into solid to the four link bars? The downside to welding them solid is, when you turn out (or in) the heim joint on the other end to adjust length, you are limited to min of 1/2 turn of adjustment, as the heim end must be oriented to fit back into the four link bracket. If both the poly bushed ends and the heim ends are (male) threaded (one RH, one LH), then you have infinite adjustment on the four link bars, probably not an earth shattering deal, I just don't like to see things that limit.....

On your Panhard bar, you have the differential side heim mounted horizontally, which means during suspension travel, that end is using the "misalignment" travel, instead of the normal travel (which would be the spherical end rotating inside the main shell of the heim)....I can't think of a reason this would be a good idea? Please help me understand.....

Sorry if I'm stepping on toes....I guess I hung around drag car guys too much in my formative years:):)

James

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 27, 2011, 9:54 pm

No problem james.

I did the links that way because...well thats the way I wanted to do them. Nothing realy beter to explain than that. The adjustment isn't a big deal, as I am very critical on myself durring fabrication, so the links are all the same. If it ends up I don't like them, then I will make new ones.

As for the panhard bar, I am not sold on the axle bracket yet, just havn't thought of a beter way yet. the bracket is only tacked on right now. No final welding on the axle until I get thd engine in to match the angle. You are correct that the rod end is 90° off. Not ideal for sure.

I take feedback well. I am not perfect.

Alan Mclennan · Post by **Alan Mclennan** » August 28, 2011, 3:00 am

Dan, could you mount the axle end of the pan hard bar on the back of the pumpkin?, something like a bar with some reinforcing webs. When I built my Hi Boy 28 Tudor, they told me to have the four bars parallel to each other and the ground. great work mate!

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » August 28, 2011, 7:50 am

You could do that alan, but a longer rod makes the axle move less side to side than a short rodfor the same vertical movement. I want to minimize the side to side so I don't run into teouble with the tires and the bed sides.

I think I have a beter design now, it will just be harder to make.

Alan Mclennan · Post by **Alan Mclennan** » August 29, 2011, 3:08 am

Sweet!

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » September 4, 2011, 8:18 pm

I redid the Panhard support on the axle.

kstones63 · Post by **kstones63** » September 4, 2011, 9:40 pm

That looks better to me. There should be less chance of binding although it probably doesn't have a lot of movement with the bar being that long.

Kevin

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » September 5, 2011, 7:14 pm

Got the axles striped down and ready to take to the machnie shop to have them re-drilled to 4.5 on 5.

One issue, do you guys think this is ok?

Also started to realy tear into the cancer on the cab.

That thing is bad, hope I can fix it.

jamesdfo · Post by **jamesdfo** » September 5, 2011, 8:46 pm

Dan: Ok, heim is now in proper orientation.....now we just need to make the diff end attachment double shear:):)

As far as that spindle goes....on the one hand, it would likely be ok....on the other, it is a big stress riser, so why risk a failure (and all the consequences) over a part that is likely worth a FRACTION of what your deductible is??

James

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » September 5, 2011, 9:37 pm

I am going to see if the machine shop can fix the axle. If not I may just order new ones with the 4.5x5 patern. I am going to call them tomorrow.

As for the double sheer joint, I agree that it would be better. However it will not change how the load is reacted in the axle, and the bolt a 150ksi 3/4" Grade 8, so I am not woried about it breaking.