Cut springs = how much drop
Cut springs = how much drop
Howdy~ I'm sure this topic has been run into the ground. However I could not locate the thread.
Does anyone know what the max amount of springs (coils) can be cut off when having he stock I Beams bent?
I want to try this before purchasing Drop beams or IFS, which will more than likely be the end result.
There is a truck shop that bends I beams to adjust camber, they could not tell me the max amount of coils I can remove.
I have heard 2-2.5, not sure if that is accurate.....garage talk.
Any info will be helpful.
Does anyone know what the max amount of springs (coils) can be cut off when having he stock I Beams bent?
I want to try this before purchasing Drop beams or IFS, which will more than likely be the end result.
There is a truck shop that bends I beams to adjust camber, they could not tell me the max amount of coils I can remove.
I have heard 2-2.5, not sure if that is accurate.....garage talk.
Any info will be helpful.
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
I cut 2 whole coils off of a set...then let it settle for about 6 months (long project going on here). I don't think they could have bent the beams enough to compensate. Needless to say those springs were replaced and the truck was put back to stock height until I can purchase the correct parts to lower my truck.
Phil
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Something to remember, the drivers side spring islonger than the passenger side, or maybe it's the other way around. Found that out when I replaced the springs. I thought it very strange.
Rich
Rich
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1964 Galaxie convertable
1964 flairside, style side, and longbed
1965 Ranger, and shortbed
1966 long bed, and shortbed
A few parts trucks also
1991 Capri
2011 F250
2004 Lexus
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
They did that to compensate for the engine weight being offset to the passenger side.64 f100 wrote:Something to remember, the drivers side spring islonger than the passenger side, or maybe it's the other way around. Found that out when I replaced the springs. I thought it very strange.
Rich
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
I cut two full coils out of mine and the truck sits about the same height as with DJM drop beams. I had the stock beams bent at an alignment shop. Perfect tire wear for two years now. I also installed Doetsch Tech Nitro Slammer lowered shocks up front. Great shock with excellent valving for this setup.
The ride is sports car firm and you will need to slow down for potholes and speed bumps. I cut some material off the front bump stops and still have 3/4" of rubber on them.
The ride is sports car firm and you will need to slow down for potholes and speed bumps. I cut some material off the front bump stops and still have 3/4" of rubber on them.
1966 F100 LWB
Balanced 390 .060 over, Comp 270s, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel 680VS carb, full length headers, gasket matched/fully ported C6AE-R heads, 2-1/2" duals, C6 and 3:54 gears with Tracloc.
Balanced 390 .060 over, Comp 270s, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel 680VS carb, full length headers, gasket matched/fully ported C6AE-R heads, 2-1/2" duals, C6 and 3:54 gears with Tracloc.
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Good deal, I'm going to try it and see what I get. Worst that can happen is I will have to buy replacement springs.
A coil consists of one full turn from start of spring correct. Wow I sound like a rookie!
A coil consists of one full turn from start of spring correct. Wow I sound like a rookie!
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Tonight the springs get cut. I will take pictures and post them.
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Update: Everything went smoothly. Got a 3" drop min, easy 2 hour job, no special tools.
Flipping the rear axle this evening after work.
Loving the new stance of my Slick!!
Will add pics, waiting to take them in day light for comparison reasons.
Flipping the rear axle this evening after work.
Loving the new stance of my Slick!!
Will add pics, waiting to take them in day light for comparison reasons.
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
I would then take it to a shop and get a good alignment done hopefully all goes well
Danny
Danny
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
I agree. It's scheduled for an alignment early next week. Not driving it until that is completed.
The rear axle flip was more difficult than the front. Took more time, and measurements.
The rear axle flip was more difficult than the front. Took more time, and measurements.
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Hope you corrected your pinion angle
Danny
Danny
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
I have not corrected the pinion angle. Currently the truck is in the garage and has not been moved.
What angle should it be adjusted to?
I flipped one leaf spring at a time, and attached at original set point.
Any help is appreciated.
What angle should it be adjusted to?
I flipped one leaf spring at a time, and attached at original set point.
Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
have you welded your new spring perches to the axel tube yet ?
Danny
Danny
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Sounds like he turned the leaf pack upside down...
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Am waiting for these pics with baited breath!
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
The leaf springs are now the the botton of the axle. I did flip the leaf pavk. If that is the same hardware that originally held the axle and leaf springs in place. Nothing that can be undone and placed back to original set up.
Lools like I will set the rear set up back to stock. I will research the procedure for flipping the rear.
I can post pictures, but I hate to disappoint. They are all of my truck in the garage lowered. No technical pics.
Thanks
Lools like I will set the rear set up back to stock. I will research the procedure for flipping the rear.
I can post pictures, but I hate to disappoint. They are all of my truck in the garage lowered. No technical pics.
Thanks
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Cutting the coils ruins the camber angle. There is no 'alignment' operation that will fix that. I'm a little surprised no one has pointed this out yet.
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Now: '93 F150 Lightning
'65 F100 Custom Cab bought 2002/Sold 2014
Now: '93 F150 Lightning
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Like he said in the first post and again by dsrtjeeper, just about any shop that does truck alignments can bend the beams to correct the camber.DV65CustomCab wrote:Cutting the coils ruins the camber angle. There is no 'alignment' operation that will fix that. I'm a little surprised no one has pointed this out yet.
Re: Cut springs = how much drop
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Re: Cut springs = how much drop
Why are you going back to stock in the rear?Danimal wrote:The leaf springs are now the the botton of the axle. I did flip the leaf pavk. If that is the same hardware that originally held the axle and leaf springs in place. Nothing that can be undone and placed back to original set up.
Lools like I will set the rear set up back to stock. I will research the procedure for flipping the rear.
I can post pictures, but I hate to disappoint. They are all of my truck in the garage lowered. No technical pics.
Thanks
1966 F100 LWB
Balanced 390 .060 over, Comp 270s, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel 680VS carb, full length headers, gasket matched/fully ported C6AE-R heads, 2-1/2" duals, C6 and 3:54 gears with Tracloc.
Balanced 390 .060 over, Comp 270s, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel 680VS carb, full length headers, gasket matched/fully ported C6AE-R heads, 2-1/2" duals, C6 and 3:54 gears with Tracloc.