Couple of Questions about my slick

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 9:16 am

Hey all got a couple more questions about my slick to throw out there. The first one is really easy I'm sure, I just haven't had the time too look into it. I need to take my dash out. I got my new harness in the mail yesterday, so the plan is to throw that sucker in there this weekend. Plus the PO felt the need to cut a hole almost 12X10 right in the middle of it to install his stereo. It looks like complete shit, and I can't find a radio to fit it! So, I'm planning on partially filling it back in. What I need to know is how to take the damn thing out! How many screws/bolts are there, and is there anything screwy about it? I know some dashes are a pain in the ass to remove...
Next is really just more of opinion type thing. I hate points ignition systems. Points annoy the hell out me honestly. My dizzy needs replaced anyways, so I was thinking about throwing in one of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... &viewitem=
I talked to them over the phone and they said it would be a great move. Anyone else running HEI? My truck has a BB, and I'm just going through replacing all that needs it. New starter, new harness, etc, just thought maybe this would be a good addition too. Anyone have an opinion?

66Gobbler · Post by **66Gobbler** » February 25, 2009, 9:34 am

The dashes are spot welded in and part of the cab. I've never seen one taken out. If it could be done I'd be interested in seeing how also.

Effie · Post by **Effie** » February 25, 2009, 10:04 am

If I understood my brother right when he was explaining it, the dizzy I have in my 352 is an HEI style. I wanted to run electronic, but didn't want a big MSD box on the inner fender taking away from the "factory" under hood look, so we went with an electronic dizzy. Been working great so far. I got it from Summit, but don't know the part number right off.

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 10:44 am

66Gobbler wrote:The dashes are spot welded in and part of the cab. I've never seen one taken out. If it could be done I'd be interested in seeing how also.

Haha, dammit, I was afraid of that! Like I said, I haven't even looked. Guess I'll have to pull my seats out and work from the underside.

36truck · Post by **36truck** » February 25, 2009, 11:04 am

DON'T buy the evilbay one. Get a Ford duraspark dizzy for it.

jwh f-100 · Post by **jwh f-100** » February 25, 2009, 11:20 am

You can also just add a pertronix to your current dizzy. I got mine at the local parts house and intstalled it in five minutes..

I think I recall someone using part of a glove box door for a radio hole repair.

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 12:13 pm

36truck wrote:DON'T buy the evilbay one. Get a Ford duraspark dizzy for it.

What's the matter with the ebay ones?
I'm kinda limited on funds, so I really don't have a lot ot spend on this. I liked those because you don't need to box and the coil is built in.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » February 25, 2009, 12:16 pm

heres a removed dash

DCarr · Post by **DCarr** » February 25, 2009, 12:46 pm

I run HEIs in all my hotrods & performance engines & they work flawlessly.
Simple hookup (1 -12 volt 12 guage wire do not use less) can run .045 gaps
no problem-uses an 8 pole pickup .They are absolutely dead on in firing accuracy
on a distributor machine. You must use top of the line plug wires with dialectric grease
to prevent cross-firing on any electronic dizzie. They WILL fire somewhere & if not at the plugs
will fire internally in the dizzie , causing all sorts of problems.
I've bought several Pro-Comp products and they have performed as advertised.
I also recommend taking ANY dizzie to someone with a distributor machine & get it set up
with the proper advance curve for your application. This will result in better fuel mileage, power &
throttle response.
IMHO-more carbs get blamed for bad drivability problems when it is really an ignition issue.

66Gobbler · Post by **66Gobbler** » February 25, 2009, 1:10 pm

In the photos I see a sledge, another hammer and and a big gas wrench! Looks like a project for unskilled labor...right up my alley.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » February 25, 2009, 1:56 pm

66Gobbler wrote:In the photos I see a sledge, another hammer and and a big gas wrench! Looks like a project for unskilled labor...right up my alley.

needed that sledge for the bumper and rear end removal

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 1:56 pm

DCarr wrote:I run HEIs in all my hotrods & performance engines & they work flawlessly.
Simple hookup (1 -12 volt 12 guage wire do not use less) can run .045 gaps
no problem-uses an 8 pole pickup .They are absolutely dead on in firing accuracy
on a distributor machine. You must use top of the line plug wires with dialectric grease
to prevent cross-firing on any electronic dizzie. They WILL fire somewhere & if not at the plugs
will fire internally in the dizzie , causing all sorts of problems.
I've bought several Pro-Comp products and they have performed as advertised.
I also recommend taking ANY dizzie to someone with a distributor machine & get it set up
with the proper advance curve for your application. This will result in better fuel mileage, power &
throttle response.
IMHO-more carbs get blamed for bad drivability problems when it is really an ignition issue.

Thanks for the info. I just put a set of ACCEL superstocks in there last weekend, would they stand up to the abuse or would I need something larger?
To me, it just seems like a good idea. I know the old argument of putting GM designed parts on a ford, but I have enough wires to replace as it is, this seems like it would simplify the whole thing....

36truck · Post by **36truck** » February 25, 2009, 2:35 pm

Read this thread it tells the story.

http://460ford.com/forum/showthread.php ... istributor

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 2:52 pm

36truck wrote:Read this thread it tells the story.

http://460ford.com/forum/showthread.php ... istributor

Pro-Comp isn't the only company that sells em though. On a fundamental level, are their any reasons that they don't work?

36truck · Post by **36truck** » February 25, 2009, 3:43 pm

Quality of the parts in the dizzy make or break it.

stevechaos13 · Post by **stevechaos13** » February 25, 2009, 3:50 pm

Okay. Well from what I have been reading it looks like the biggest issue with them is the misfires and whatnot at high RPM. I don't race my truck or even drive it all that fast. High RPM's shouldn't be an issue for me. I just don't want to deal with points or having to add any more wiring under my hood. If you check the pics in my last post (about the starter) you will see that I have my hands full with wires as it is. I'm just drawn by the fact that A) it is a one wire system. B) it eliminates my need for an external coil, so that's several wires I won't need, and C) it's affordable. I just wanted to know if there was anything to look out for. I found another guy selling them on for a little higher with a 4 year warranty, and tuned right out of the box. Bad idea?

matt2491 · Post by **matt2491** » February 25, 2009, 6:27 pm

The Pertronix electronic ignitors and their coils always worked well for me...

Bill W · Post by **Bill W** » February 25, 2009, 7:18 pm

another vote for pertronix, ya know... they even had one for my Mallory unilite dizzy, Unilite's are JUNK! 6 months of trying to figure that out!! truck would just up and die.

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » February 25, 2009, 9:19 pm

I am a factory DSII man myself. The parts are everywere and you can do the entire system new for $200. I have 3 stock boxes that I pulled out of a yard that I can plug in at any time if for some odd reasion it fails. Same with the coil.

Like you said, you are not racing and don't realy need it from a performance stand point.

BTW, FBpete runs DSII on his 460 and runs 12s 1/4miles.

MY OL 66 · Post by **MY OL 66** » February 25, 2009, 10:47 pm

Bill W wrote:another vote for pertronix, ya know... they even had one for my Mallory unilite dizzy, Unilite's are JUNK! 6 months of trying to figure that out!! truck would just up and die.

I had a Unilite in my '65 Stang for over 20 years without a lick of trouble, then it just died.
I now have the Pertronix with the flame thrower coil in the car and it runs just fine.

Couple of Questions about my slick

Couple of Questions about my slick

Another vote for pertronix