all wrong 63 or is it ?

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » November 16, 2010, 9:06 am

Cool thread. I agree with the others this is a factory wrongbox, probably the big fenders are from the factory too. I don't like the goofy mickey mouse ear lights, but those were a factory option, you should pick up that set Bigjob has if you want to restore to factory. Those are 66-only hubcaps and must have outie wheels, both incorrect for the year. Nice truck! If it were mine I would fill in the holes for the mouse ears, paint the black parts on the grille, and drive it!!

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » November 16, 2010, 10:05 am

Johnny Canuck wrote:Cool thread. I agree with the others this is a factory wrongbox, probably the big fenders are from the factory too. I don't like the goofy mickey mouse ear lights, but those were a factory option, you should pick up that set Bigjob has if you want to restore to factory. Those are 66-only hubcaps and must have outie wheels, both incorrect for the year. Nice truck! If it were mine I would fill in the holes for the mouse ears, paint the black parts on the grille, and drive it!!

probably got the wrong wheels when the 17.5 tires were pulled off! LOL Hawkrod

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » November 16, 2010, 10:10 am

ezernut9mm wrote:so, what tire size determined the large opening fenders? mine has 16" wheels and i believe had the 7.50 firestones and it has the regular small openings.

It does depend on the year but usually 15 and 16 will be small opening and 16.5 and larger have the big opening but some 16's did have the big opening (F350's from 64 on for sure). I am sure that there was a chart when orders were created in the system but that is probably gone to history. And just for those that wonder, there were actually quite a few common sizes in the early 60's that you never see any more like 17, 17.5 and 19.5. Hawkrod

63unibodyboy · Post by **63unibodyboy** » November 16, 2010, 2:17 pm

great replys ,I figured I would get some good info here, I am going to finish the grill with the black,just didnt get around to it yet, I talked to my friend today, he sold me the truck,he said he switched the wheels when he got it and went with the 15 inch, he thinks it had 16 or bigger , he couldnt remember since it was about 25 years ago and he's had alot of slicks, I know the hubcaps are wrong,but they are nos caps I got for free from another friend about 12 years ago, I do have the so called right box for it , I may put that box on when I restore it ,or not,the grill lights have one positive and a ground, I have the 63 uni my wife whats restored first since its her truck

she said mine looks good for now

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » November 16, 2010, 4:02 pm

Right bed? Are you talking about a Flareside bed? That too would be correct, but if you're talking about the 64-66 styleside there are some issues as the wheelbase is different than the 63 and would require cutting down the bed (or moving the rear axle).
It's your truck, but I personally wouldn't touch the bed. You have a beautiful example of a 63 and there aren't too many around in the condition yours is. I would make the couple of changes mentioned earlier, including painting the manifold grey, not Ford Red. I believe the side cover should also be black and not red. As I said "near perfect".
Drive the heck out of it and be proud!

65TremecGT · Post by **65TremecGT** » November 16, 2010, 7:10 pm

Very nice truck!s! Like the uni also, looks very solid! Also nice three wheeler combo!

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » November 16, 2010, 8:36 pm

Gritsngumbo wrote:Right bed? Are you talking about a Flareside bed? That too would be correct, but if you're talking about the 64-66 styleside there are some issues as the wheelbase is different than the 63 and would require cutting down the bed (or moving the rear axle).

Grits, that's not the case on a short bed, just the long ones....

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » November 16, 2010, 8:55 pm

fire truck wrote:
Gritsngumbo wrote:Right bed? Are you talking about a Flareside bed? That too would be correct, but if you're talking about the 64-66 styleside there are some issues as the wheelbase is different than the 63 and would require cutting down the bed (or moving the rear axle).
Grits, that's not the case on a short bed, just the long ones....

Oops! Guess nmy brain isn't programmed for "shortbed". Thought that might be the case as I hit submit

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » November 16, 2010, 9:03 pm

63unibodyboy wrote:the grill lights have one positive and a ground,

Well, that said, I would bet on them being stock and look for some factory fender lights.

Uncle Skip · Post by **Uncle Skip** » November 16, 2010, 9:04 pm

Damn Gerald.
I could have sworn you said shortbread......
U@ss

factorystock · Post by **factorystock** » November 16, 2010, 9:45 pm

ezernut9mm wrote:so, what tire size determined the large opening fenders? mine has 16" wheels and i believe had the 7.50 firestones and it has the regular small openings.

F 100's would have the large fenders if it was ordered with 17.5" rims.

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » November 16, 2010, 10:03 pm

Uncle Skip wrote:Damn Gerald.
I could have sworn you said shortbread......
U@ss

Well, my brain isn't programmed for SHORTBREAD either

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » November 17, 2010, 7:09 am

fire truck wrote:
63unibodyboy wrote:the grill lights have one positive and a ground,
Well, that said, I would bet on them being stock and look for some factory fender lights.

Drop me a pm, I've got a set cheap
-Steve.

factorystock · Post by **factorystock** » November 17, 2010, 9:15 pm

Hawkrod wrote:Edited based on new info! 61-63 F350 could have either fender. Hawkrod

Interesting, I have never seen a factory photo or period photo showing the small fenders on a '61-'63 F 350, either single wheel or dual wheel. Parts book often make mistakes. The parts book is probably confusing the F 350 with the F 250 is my bet. There was a suspension change on the F250 after '64, where the suspension stayed the same on F 350's '61 thru '66. Does anyone on the site have an original F 350 with small fenders?

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » November 17, 2010, 9:27 pm

factorystock wrote:
Hawkrod wrote:Edited based on new info! 61-63 F350 could have either fender. Hawkrod
Interesting, I have never seen a factory photo or period photo showing the small fenders on a '61-'63 F 350, either single wheel or dual wheel. Parts book often make mistakes. The parts book is probably confusing the F 350 with the F 250 is my bet. There was a suspension change on the F250 after '64, where the suspension stayed the same on F 350's '61 thru '66. Does anyone on the site have an original F 350 with small fenders?

You could be right but it is also possible that there are few 61-63 F350's with small tires and so they would have had the bigger opening anyway. I can tell you that it is definitely not a confusion between F250's and F350's in the application. The tire size was the only deciding factor not the model. Hawkrod

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » November 17, 2010, 9:37 pm

factorystock wrote:
Hawkrod wrote:Edited based on new info! 61-63 F350 could have either fender. Hawkrod
Interesting, I have never seen a factory photo or period photo showing the small fenders on a '61-'63 F 350, either single wheel or dual wheel. Parts book often make mistakes. The parts book is probably confusing the F 350 with the F 250 is my bet. There was a suspension change on the F250 after '64, where the suspension stayed the same on F 350's '61 thru '66. Does anyone on the site have an original F 350 with small fenders?

If anyone has a copy of James K. Wagners 'Ford Trucks Since 1905' look on page 308 drawing showing a 1 ton with small opening [stake truck] and pic of milk truck w/ large opening-could not find actual pic of small opening.
-Steve

factorystock · Post by **factorystock** » November 18, 2010, 9:16 pm

F7BIGJOB wrote: If anyone has a copy of James K. Wagners 'Ford Trucks Since 1905' look on page 308 drawing showing a 1 ton with small opening [stake truck] and pic of milk truck w/ large opening-could not find actual pic of small opening.

Beware of any literature that are artist renditions. This literature was used plenty by Ford prior to '66. That particular drawing started out as a F100, same angle used on plenty of pickup ads from the era.

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » November 18, 2010, 9:29 pm

factorystock wrote:
F7BIGJOB wrote: If anyone has a copy of James K. Wagners 'Ford Trucks Since 1905' look on page 308 drawing showing a 1 ton with small opening [stake truck] and pic of milk truck w/ large opening-could not find actual pic of small opening.
Beware of any literature that are artist renditions. This literature was used plenty by Ford prior to '66. That particular drawing started out as a F100, same angle used on plenty of pickup ads from the era.

Thanks-Somewhat leery of drawings anyway, like 7 lug wheels, and other oddities. That's why I said couldn't find ANY pic either, maybe does not exist.

F7BIGJOB · Post by **F7BIGJOB** » February 20, 2011, 7:30 pm

I still have the '61-'64 class I front valance mounts with lamps- Cheap + frt

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » February 20, 2011, 11:01 pm

factorystock wrote:
Hawkrod wrote:Edited based on new info! 61-63 F350 could have either fender. Hawkrod
Interesting, I have never seen a factory photo or period photo showing the small fenders on a '61-'63 F 350, either single wheel or dual wheel. Parts book often make mistakes. The parts book is probably confusing the F 350 with the F 250 is my bet. There was a suspension change on the F250 after '64, where the suspension stayed the same on F 350's '61 thru '66. Does anyone on the site have an original F 350 with small fenders?

My 66 f350 is SRW and has the large openings....