mustang front suspension?

[lo6fo]

im starting to save up to buy a front suspension for my 64. im planning on bagging the mustang suspension the problem is i cant find anybody that makes a weld in kit for a 64. so im asking you guys for help finding the closest fitting mustang crossmember that would require the least modifing.

[R Pope]

I suggest you drive a Pinto before you get too excited about that suspension in a truck.

[aarons428]

this guy makes kits for just about any chassis ever made.
http://www.fatmanfab.com
Any mustang type front suspension out there is built MUCH better than the stock system.
When i get enough money saved up i WILL do a mustang ll type front suspension on my truck hands down.

[Hunter's 64]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-1964-ford- ... 43aa567b53

Here's another ,they make a c notch 4 link kit for the rear also

http://www.totalcostinvolved.com/pdf/pr ... nd1_A1.pdf

Danny

[6166 Junkyard Dog]

personally like R Pope says drive a Pinto before making a decision,, FATMAN can talk till he is blue in the face Mustang II are not for trucks unless you want a trailer queen,, Sorry I want a front end thats going to hold up to my spec which means a lot of miles under her and thats not going to happen with that Sorry my mistake you can get that mileage on back of a trailer,, few different times we have put 40,000 miles on a truck in a year and was not that way,, in past seen too many trucks wasted away after Mustang II was installed and the BIG FOR SALE On it,, Show me that a Mustang II is going to hold up with a 460 under her, A/C etc.. There is a lot more other ways to go Just my

On a other note it's been OK for some using those kits cause in past month I have sold 2 frames one for a 55, other for 64 cause they where getting away from that xxxx in their words

[HotRod66]

There has been alot of people that are having bad luck with there suspensions!
Seen one photo where it was almost split in two! It was on a Daily Driver!

[lo6fo]

I would really like to drive the truck a lot. I know my truck will never be as heavy as the one mentioned. Its got a 292 y block in it which I plan on keeping. I'm. Open to suggestions because I do want an ifs bagged on this truk. I've got a few months worth of saving to be able to afford a kit anyways so I have plenty of research time. Any and all help from you uys is apperciated. Thanks

[Power by Ford]

Consider the No Limit wide ride much heavier for about the same money

[lo6fo]

That looks like a really nice setup from no limit. A little moe than I wanted to spend but I really wanna do this right the 1st tme. Ill keep doing my homework for a bit.

[lo6fo]

I seen on this site that guys put dodge dokota suspensions in their slicks. Has anyone ever bagged one of those?

[Hunter's 64]

some use camaro sub frames , like this viewtopic.php?f=32&t=19300
look in the build section many bagged ifs . talk to drigginwagon he has done a bunch


Danny

[6166 Junkyard Dog]

One thing to remember is that these companies that sell these front ends are there to sell their product,, Their your best freinds till they get that sell, Once bought then might give few tech ?'s answered, then it will die off and your stuck with a piece of xxxx and no money,,, WITH NO WARRANTY

I am by far not a chebbby fan , But I have found a Camaro front end will work under 48-72 trucks,, I have found that the FE Motors fit the chassis better than it did in the Ford Truck Chassis with better clearances, I found that the front steer gear box has a smooth straight shot when hooking up columns/gear boxes unlike some you might see with close areas and have 2-3 joints,, I have found by using the Camaro and a rear out of a Mark V will work the best, 5 on 5 for the rear and switch the small A-arms/spindles of stock Camaro to big GM Will change that to 5 on 5 all the way around give you rear dics and 12" rotors that will give you plenty of stopping power,,

I see alot going to Crown-Vic as well going under trucks,, have not tried or drove one so cannot say, one thing to remember also as far as handling KEEP In mind both short bed and long bed trucks will do differnet things as far as ride, handling etc.. talk/ask plenty of ?'s if possible drive differnt ones

[bcook07]

I am doing the crown vic ifs. If you can live with the width It looks like it will be easy to bag. And it's cheap.

[MadMaxetc]

If you want to drive it, I would (and did) go with the Dakota. They have the same GVW, and weight balance as our slicks. The V8 springs will hold up our BB as well.

Call Steve at Industrial Chassis INC. He does the Dodge Dakota IFS kits. He is working on the next gen weld in unit for the slicks (both years).

1 (866) 553-8996

Website.
http://www.industrialchassisinc.com

Here is his FB page.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Industria ... 8821730298

I have one of his older kits. You can bag it no problem. He will hook you up.

My

[lo6fo]

thanks guys. more than likely im gonna go with the dokota.

[cooter]

i know this isnt the first bashing of m2 on this site so lets get it all out there. What FACTS do we know about the m2 which make it a problem? Which parts are weak and breaking? To say "drive a pinto" isnt right as there is nothing in a m2 kit which comes from a pinto or mustang other than a rack and even those are aftermarket. Ive driven many cars with properly installed m2 setups and thought they were great but never drove a truck with one

[Anthony]

I know the opinions of a lot of these guys on Ch*vy parts on our trucks, but the PO of Zaks truck did a nice job. It is set up to drop Zaks Ford engine back down into her... this is a 1980 Ch*vy truck front clip grafted onto/into the original 1964 frame. the width is almost perfect to slide the Ch*vy clip into the ford, bolt together to line it up right then Welded together.



His Uni has a low ride height with 4" drop spindles and lowering springs.. no bags here but I am pretty sure the ch*vy front clip is one that you can use bags on. with the truck front clip there will be no doubt that it will hold up to your driving needs as it IS a truck front end.. there will have to be a steering bar made with knuckles on both ends to cross the frame from column to steering box since one is on the inside and one is on the outside of the frame rail.. but this is an easy project...



This might be an inexpensive choice for you... PLEASE NO HATERS... it was the previous owners work and it is good enough to keep.

[Toyz]

i know this isnt the first bashing of m2 on this site so lets get it all out there. What FACTS do we know about the m2 which make it a problem? Which parts are weak and breaking? To say "drive a pinto" isnt right as there is nothing in a m2 kit which comes from a pinto or mustang other than a rack and even those are aftermarket. Ive driven many cars with properly installed m2 setups and thought they were great but never drove a truck with one

I'm also anxiously awaiting the answer to that question! Are we talking defects, under-capacity, faulty installation, or all of the above?
At this point I intend to use the Fatman set-up, but in addition to it, I have a frame with a well-done Lincoln clip, as well as a CV conversion.
This truck will never see "truck" usage, but I would like to have something comfortable,safe, and with decent handling. My inquiries to Fatman have met prompt accurate information, considering I am not the original purchaser. TCI also has a rep for customer service.
The CV is probably the most robust of the choices, considering what those cars were designed for, but because of that, I wish to save that set-up for a heavier duty application. If I were building an Auto-cross truck, the inherent strength and wider track would be a worthwhile consideration.
Yeah, I could use a Camaro, but I've seen plenty of problems with them, backed up by the fact that resto-rodders and Pro-Streeters are quick to shed those OEM setups.
Good point about the trailer "queens"; while mine certainly won't fit that categorization, I can reasonably expect the most impact on my suspension may well be encountered approaching the loading ramps.
To each his own, I am also a fan of Industrial's set-up, and fully expect his newest to be worth the wait.
I guess I could stay with the original straight axle if durability was the only concern; it certainly meets the test of time, and evidently was considered adequate for the F100XL!
Paul

[6166 Junkyard Dog]

one thing I can say with ease on straight axle trucks, My 56 still has original straight axle with up grades from Super Bell on disc brakes, power assist like old Fairalnes has, sway bars, main spring leaf reversed,, non power brakes with single bowl master cylinder with Mark V rear end

How does it handle, back in the late 80's went to Nashville Tn before the Supernationals, on the way back to Pigeon Forget to the supernats I had a follower andwhen he got to the show He could not believe his eyes when he looked under at this 56 with straight axle that he at times could not keep up with me on I-40 through a lot of Mountain curves,, also this truck has a 160 MPH Speedo for a reason and have run that and never worried about straight axles in excess of say 125 MPH heres the formula 427 Stroker+4 speed Top Loader+2:75= whatever you have the xxlls to run at once you go past the 125 and up mark, but thats the way I have always driven in any truck pickup or semi and still at my age will keep my foot in it, if you set up a staight axle right, keep it lubed, lube gear box, DON"T Put one of those small steering wheels it can do just as good as any others BOTTOM LINE Do all your homework First

one other thing with the Camaro/Chevy Truck before making that weld you can set the height high or low to give it a good stance...

[MadMaxetc]

MII does not have the correct geometry when widened for our trucks. FatManFab has to add 2" and that throws off the IC of the LH to RH side. Not a bid deal but it does cause problems when faced with an evasive maneuver. If you only drive in a straight line with minimal cornering like at a show or just cruising you are good to go.

Another thing to think about is the wear and tear on the rack. A good aftermarket one will be fine, but a stock unit is not used to or designed to turn big truck rubber when weighted down with a heavy front end and a BBF.

A lot of the MII hate is from the old cheaply done kits that every fab shop around did. They used too small a gage and bad supports/load paths. I would NEVER take a stock front end and weld a stub frame on...just not built for the weight.

I think that the MII kits from a good source will work just fine for most, but I don't want one on my DD.

Just like everyone else I am entitled to my opinion. I will never fault someone for what they do to their truck. If you want to do a MII, just be informed.