Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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The drive shaft shouldn't cost too much, assuming the one you start with is good and can be shortened. I can't give you an idea of cost because I replaced mine when I still had a 3 speed and ALL future labor on the shaft is free to the original purchaser, from the place I bought it, so shortening it was free since that was only labor.

For what it's worth, my conversion for the Y block was about $2200 with a new T5 (when they were about $1400), labor done myself, so I can't speak on that. Based on the info from LM14 about the FE, the adapter is pretty close in cost, the clutch will be cheaper and starting with a used or rebuilt transmission should be cheaper, so if you do it yourself, I think it can be done to an FE for about $1500, and maybe less. I'd say that's pretty practical for what you get, but that's me. And if you can't do it yourself, the only "custom" work would be the shifter hole, oh, and maybe the trans crossmember since they mount differently on the FE trucks. I can't imagine those being too much additional cost.
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There you go, the start of an entrepreneurship! $700.00 for the pair, probably another $75 shipping, leaving you a profit of around $225.00 by your calculations. T5 cores are comparatively cheap around here, so the profit margin should hold or increase.
Now all I need to know is where to find these $1000.00 C/L buyers!
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I never suspected a transmission would start a small war lol
I'm still toying with the T5 idea...just a matter of waiting to find one relatively cheap and close...
I emailed Wilcap regarding their adapter...it's still listed on their site but it (along with several others) are not linked to a product page...sort of suggesting they may no longer produce it...that was 3 days ago...I still haven't gotten a response...if I find a transmission I'll have to actually call them...if it's a no go, it'll be the whole bellhousing replacement at closer to $550
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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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I posted my opinion, that there isnt a practical way to put a T-5 behind an FE.

I stanf behind that statement.

When LM tells me that I am wrong because his truck has a T-5 and mine doesnt he is just blowing smoke.

He states "The 2.75 is fine if all, and I mean ALL, you do is run down the highway. It will make it a slug around town."

I say BS.

If LM wants to have a different opinion, I dont have a problem with that, start telling me I dont know what I am talking about and I do have a problem with that.

And hey, just because he "raced" for 25 years doesnt mean he was or is good at it.

His statements lead me to believe that his personality is pushy and its his way or no way.

Beware of his advice. Thats all I have to say.
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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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Toyz wrote:
There you go, the start of an entrepreneurship! $700.00 for the pair, probably another $75 shipping, leaving you a profit of around $225.00 by your calculations. T5 cores are comparatively cheap around here, so the profit margin should hold or increase.
Now all I need to know is where to find these $1000.00 C/L buyers!
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Are you willing to roll the dice that these are ready to bolt in and start banging gears?

Find me world class T-5s ready to bolt in and go, I will sell them all day long.

Im not interested in some guys core that he bought used and never used, but "thinks" its a good tranny.

Where are the $1000 CL buyers?

Any idea how many 65-93 Mustang owners are looking for a T-5, thats who you are competeing with when shopping for a used one. Im going to guess there are a lot more of those guys, than there are Slick owners looking for one.

Good condition T-5's are a highly desirable tranny and they are in short supply, so they bring premium prices.
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JojoDVM wrote:I never suspected a transmission would start a small war lol
I'm still toying with the T5 idea...just a matter of waiting to find one relatively cheap and close...
I emailed Wilcap regarding their adapter...it's still listed on their site but it (along with several others) are not linked to a product page...sort of suggesting they may no longer produce it...that was 3 days ago...I still haven't gotten a response...if I find a transmission I'll have to actually call them...if it's a no go, it'll be the whole bellhousing replacement at closer to $550
Can't recall the year of your truck, but at worst, john could probably point you toward the early FE housing.

http://www.ford-y-block.com/t5in-cars-bird.htm
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http://www.riley-auto.com/site/mobile?u ... .html#2894

$240 FE bellhousing adapter to a T5
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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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bmcgc wrote:
Toyz wrote:
There you go, the start of an entrepreneurship! $700.00 for the pair, probably another $75 shipping, leaving you a profit of around $225.00 by your calculations. T5 cores are comparatively cheap around here, so the profit margin should hold or increase.
Now all I need to know is where to find these $1000.00 C/L buyers!
Paul
Are you willing to roll the dice that these are ready to bolt in and start banging gears?Yes, I've known my builder of choice for just under 65 years now, He was first ASE certified on manual transmissions, among other certs, in 1975. He also spends my paychecks :P I don't "bang" gears

Find me world class T-5s ready to bolt in and go, I will sell them all day long. Not interested, thanks

Im not interested in some guys core that he bought used and never used, but "thinks" its a good tranny. A good transmission man can quickly determine the value of the core. In the case of the posted listing, it also has a somewhat valuable tailshaft

Where are the $1000 CL buyers? That was my question

Any idea how many 65-93 Mustang owners are looking for a T-5, thats who you are competeing with when shopping for a used one. Im going to guess there are a lot more of those guys, than there are Slick owners looking for one. Yep, deal with them quite often, especially those with Fox bodies wanting to upgrade, thus making T5's that much more available

Good condition T-5's are a highly desirable tranny and they are in short supply, so they bring premium prices.
You're afraid of a C/L core, yet feel there's a ready market for $1000.00 C/L transmissions. Short supply doesn't seem to be an issue here.


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Here's 3 pictures for the OP and anyone interested. Just took these his morning.

First is 55 MPH in 4th (1:1)

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Next is 55 in 5th (.68:1)

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Last is 70 in 5th (sorry the speedo doesn't show, took a quick guess taking the pic.

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The part number for the Wilcap adapter is BHA 390-FT5

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And you get 18mpg. That's encouraging. Mine is 1800-1900 @70 with a 3.70 rear, .63od and I want a 4.10 to shift the rpm up, actually in the hopes of improving my economy but I'm also curious to see how that affects it on the strip because I think it will like a shorter gear there, as well. When it is all said and done, I'll have two center sections, one for the street for the best highway mileage, and one for the strip for the best acceleration.
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I need to get a tach
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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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LM, nice that it is working out for you.

Im going with my 2.80 plan for under $100 and a couple hours work.

Now if I could find a 64 that I could do a 5.0/T-5, R&P, dropped axle, and a flip, that would be different.
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Who's rack and pinion will work on a droped axel ?


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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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Most of what you would want to know about a Borg Warner T5 transmission,
the afore mentioned link;


viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10773

A 90s T5 behind a pretty much stock 352 should be OK as long as it isn't abused.
Behind a 428 for example - not so much.
Someone made an adapter to mount a T5 to an FE bell (or it was a swap bell).
Depends on your usage - as long as you have a good transmission within the proper torque specs for the engine it should do well.
I personally though would look at an NV 4500 behind the FE.
BTW, there are Fox Mustang guys racing T5s behind 400+ HP engines with good success.
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I considered the NV4500 right up till I saw what they were going for
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Who's rack and pinion will work on a droped axel


None that I have found.I made a No Limt rack work with my 3" drop axle but will have needed to use at least a 18" wheel.I decided to not use the rack and am going with a Toyota box now.
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bmcgc wrote: Now if I could find a 64 that I could do a 5.0/T-5, R&P, dropped axle, and a flip, that would be different.
I was inquiring about this ^^^^^ was woundering who had one , I have the No-Limit R&P and They state not for dropped Axels , after mocking mine up I can see why. Thats why I went with reverse eye Mono's


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Re: Is a T5 a T5 a T5?

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Ok, Ice, I know you're right ------------ !
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